
In a nifty Q&A on Wired News today, Aaron Rowe talks to Robert Lanza, CEO of Advanced Cell Technologies and one of the most interesting biologists working today. Wired gave Lanza a Rave award a couple years ago for his aggressive work with embryonic stem cells, and he's also been involved in various human cloning attempts.
So the Q&A—and the article Lanza wrote in the American Scholar to which its pegged—are interesting because they manage to make Lanza seem, well, kind of dopey. In both, Lanza attempts to find a unified theory of space and time not in physics but in biology—not coincidentally his specialty. Now, there's a long history of physicists and chemists dropping down on the biologists to help them out with wee problems, like when Linus Pauling started mucking around with figuring out the structure of DNA. Watson and Crick thought they were racing him to the finish line. So maybe it's turnabout-fair-play for a high-level biologist like Lanza to take a crack at the physicists.
But if you're going to play, you have to bring your A-game. Lanza does not.
More after the jump.
Here's Lanza's billboard graf:
So...okay. Let's say I'm willing to play along. The quantum mechanics and string theorists are all wrong, we're about to find out. Consciousness is at the center of reality. I'm starting to vaguely remember some hazy, late-night dorm-room conversations that may or may not have been influenced by controlled substances of various types, but hey, they were fun and Lanza's a smart guy. So why not?
Then there's a few hundred words of throat-clearing like the following:
Ooh. Accusing scientists of being like the Laputans. They hate that.
But here comes the good stuff.
Well, he's right about the creationists loving this kind of exceptionalism. But it's misguided for other reasons. For one thing, it's entirely possible that if the laws of our universe were different, there'd be a totally different kind of life here to observe them. And if the universe was made of nothing but hydrogen, no one would be around to care. Lee Smolin, the theoretical physicist and string theory attacker, has an interesting idea that universes evolve in the hearts of black holes, and the ones that produce more black holes are more evolutionarily "fit"—ie, they breed more—which means the laws of physics have to tend toward black hole production, which means universes tend to look a lot like this one. But I digress.
Next point:
Zeno's Paradox? You're really going with Zeno's Paradox? The same one that calculus explains? Newton dispatched this one, baby. You don't need quant for it.
I edited a Josh McHugh story for us a while back about a guy who said much the same thing about time—that it's an illusion of consciousness. Everyone—Lanza included—always points at Einstein's breakthrough idea, that time and space depend on the position of the observer. That was his big triumph over Newton, who thought time must be absolute. But the thing about Einstein's point is not that time is an illusion—it's that it's different depending on how you look at it. When you're not looking at it, there's still something called time.
Lanza then takes a tour through all the things quantum physics either can't explain or is really weird about. Wave-particle duality, quantum entanglement, observer dependent experimental outcomes...it's like he read our What We Don't Know issue (which I appreciate).
But here's the big jump Lanza wants us to make:
Now this, clearly, is the marijuana talking.
No, I kid. That was ad hominem of me, and I apologize. What I should have said was: Dude! What? Lanza's conclusion here is that we need to understand the mysteries of consciousness so we can explain how individual clumps of neurons produce—from what he does not say—little slivers of illusory universe.
Bit of a chicken-and-egg problem there, I think. Those neurons might not be the end of the story on how consciousness is produced (another question from What We Don't Know, I might add) but they are at least the beginning. And those neurons are made of molecules, which are made of atoms...which churn away quite happily without anything observing them, just sitting there being brains and stuff.
Here is the bulk of Lanza's penultimate graf, and I think it's intended to deal with the problem I just raised. I'm not sure, though, because I don't really understand it:
I've read this a few times, and I'm having the same tautology problem. Spacetime produces consciousness, because neurons create spatio-temporal relationships, which are subject to the laws of neural logic.
Nope. I'm missing it still. Someone has to help me with this.
Thing is, I have a lot of respect for Lanza. His biology is really interesting and cutting edge, and I find it admirable that he's trying to tackle the problems on the border of physics and philosophy. They're the fundamental stuff of reality, and they are what we should all spend some time thinking about—addled by dorm-room smoke or not. What bothers me is that he seems to have been a little lazy about it, and for a scientist of his caliber...that's just weird.
