Nerd Up: Hellboy II's Monster Madness

By Scott Brown and Brian Raftery Each week during the summer movie season, Wired writers and movie nerds Scott Brown and Brian Raftery fire up their instant-messaging clients and do a tag-team critique of a new flick. Sort of like Siskel and Ebert, but geekier and funnier. Like Statler and Waldorf but, you know, non-Muppet. […]

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By Scott Brown and Brian Raftery

Each week during the summer movie season, Wired writers and movie nerds Scott Brown and Brian Raftery fire up their instant-messaging clients and do a tag-team critique of a new flick. Sort of like Siskel and Ebert, but geekier and funnier. Like Statler and Waldorf but, you know, non-Muppet.

This week, Brown (Statler76) and Raftery (Waldorf75) have a devilishly good time digging into Hellboy II: The Golden Army. (Read Wired.com's Hellboy II review.)

Statler76: hellboy's nominally about eco-terrorist elves making war on feckless mankind, with hellboy -- the dudely, irascible son of Lucifer -- as our last line of defense. But really, it's about monsters.

Waldorf75: at some point, guillermo del toro is going to have to explain his errant eyeball fixation
Waldorf75: he must make the creepiest sock puppets of all time

Waldorf75: with googly eyes on the front chin

Statler76: His boyhood bedroom must've looked like hieronymus bosch's.

Statler76: But with less stereoscopic vision.

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Statler76: Does del toro have children?

Statler76: SHOULD he have children?

Statler76: Or even impressionable tumors?

Waldorf75: i dunno. but the "troll market" scene accomplished something i hadn't seen in a sci-fi/fantasy movie in years: monsters that didn't look like mashups of bigger, more successful monsters

Statler76: Yes!

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Waldorf75:
i feel like most of the CGI-era creatures are 50 percent velociraptor, 25 percent cockroach and 25 percent Godzilla, with a little bit of roger ailes thrown in there.

Statler76: Whereas del Toro's monsters seem to grow spontaneously, like, well, cancer. He's got an original eye, that Guillermo. The one that's actually focused on something.

Statler76: It's that other eye, the wandering eye, that i wonder about.

Waldorf75: how so, me hearty?

Statler76: I enjoyed this movie, but I will say: there are drawbacks to comic-book storytelling.

Statler76: This movie is more splash-panel than actual, propulsive narrative.

Statler76: I mean, I love a hero who just hangs out and kills a sixer of Tecate while there's a deadly, warmaking elf on the loose ...

Statler76: but I guess I'm just not sure what the Bureau for Paranormal Research and Defense's chartered for ... random supernatural cleanup in the New York metropolitan area? With no follow-up?

Waldorf75: when he quits working for the government at the end, i thought, "wait, why is he even with them to begin with?"

Statler76: excellent question.

Statler76: I mean, in the first one, he had Professor Broome, his father figure. Who wouldn't feel loyal to cuddly, avuncular John Hurt?

Statler76: On the other hand: what supernatural being in his right mind would work for Jeffrey Tambor?
Statler76: And without good dental, clearly?

Waldorf75: is it just me, or is tambor improvising through most of this?

Waldorf75: it seems that, when it comes to the film's comedic elements, the performers are doing all of the heavy lifting

Statler76: Yeah, agreed. Although I kind of wish they'd let Perlman lift more.

Statler76: I like Hellboy. He's a great character. Let HIM riff a little!

Statler76: I felt like half his one-liners had been pruned.

Waldorf75: yeah, he felt zinger-deprived

Statler76: I wish they'd let some great wit take one more pass at this script before shooting it

Statler76: Half the time, Hellboy grimaces skeptically at the camera ... and says nothing.

Statler76: I wish they'd just let him BE Philip Marlowe.

Statler76: The Bogey version. Not the Eliot Gould version.

Statler76: Whom i saw in the troll market, i think.

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Waldorf75:
true. who would have thought that the most quotable character in this movie would be the Colonel Klink-ish ball of Teutonic gas, piped into a rubber suit and voiced by Family Guy's Seth Macfarlane?

Statler76: Or that "suck my schwanstucker" would be the signature line?

Waldorf75: i loved dr. johann krauss. i loved his no-nonsense approach, his professorial gesticulations and his weird industrial mandibles.

Statler76: Decent industrial mandibles might be the only way to rescue a retired ethnic stereotype at this point.

Waldorf75: i can only hope tom cruise's nazi movie will include a scene in which a ball of gas hits a demon in the nuts with a gym locker

Statler76: Unlikely. "Own -- but don't display -- your demon-gas nut-crunching" is the fifth tenet of Scientology.

Statler76: I've got to say, this is the nerdiest, most starless script ever to put away a second-weekend Will Smith blockbuster.

Waldorf75: so nerdy!

Statler76: References to "glamour"! Elf language … outside a Lord of the Rings movie!

Waldorf75: steampunk! Mos Eisley spaceport! "aliens"! oh, and john hurt, who also popped up in "crystal skull." When it comes to talky late-50s eggheads, hurt's your only casting choice, apparently.
Statler76: Hellboy II gave me great dreams. I feel like it almost needs to expand in water, overnight, for full appreciation.

Statler76: Like an angry, vagina-mouthed plant!

Waldorf75: the vagina-eyed plant didn't make budget

Statler76: hahahaha. But that forties music you hear? It's the old jazz standard "My Vagina-Eyed Sweetheart"

Waldorf75: i have that on my vagina-shaped victrola!

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Statler76: So here's another question for you: Is pagan nature really the enemy in this movie? and is there any reason to side with humanity ... at all?

Statler76: Del Toro clearly has no sympathy for rank-and-file homo sapiens

Statler76: but when your hero's the antichrist -- and your most dramatic moment involves the Angel of Death, prophesying the world's destruction at Hellboy's hands -- i guess i'm pumped for something a little bigger than a climactic swordfight.

Statler76: I'm still not entirely sure what the dimensions of this universe are.

Waldorf75: nor am i

Waldorf75: but i have to imagine

Waldorf75: that hellboy 3 -- should it exist -- will somehow use humans in some further capacity, rather than employing them merely as hellboy's nags.

Waldorf75: but hell, maybe earth is just a random location. like dantooine, destined to exist just to be destroyed. Or a satellite campus

Waldorf75: "i'll do two years here, then, when it blows up, i'll move to something bigger"

Statler76: or just go to culinary school.

Waldorf75: "just something more grown-up: a dorm room off-campus, away from the troll market."

Photos: Egon Endrenyi © 2007 Universal Studios.

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