Techies Are Using Ketamine to Fight Their Depression
Released on 06/21/2017
(beeping) Your brain's constantly
pinging noise, you wanna do anything you can
just to turn it off, it's saying yesterday, yesterday,
yesterday, tomorrow, tomorrow, yesterday, yesterday,
work, work, work, girlfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend.
And all this noise is just pinging all day long.
You take ketamine, it's almost like taking
your consciousness out of that completely.
All this noise is gone, and there's this complete
and utter stillness.
[Narrator] Ketamine is a clinical anesthetic
that's probably better known
as the club drug special K.
Taken at high doses, it can send users into a K-hole,
an out of body experience that's been described
as a kind of mental paralysis.
But take the right dose under the right conditions,
and it could be a lifesaver for patients
with treatment resistant depression.
I know people who have been on the brink of suicide
and done it, and it's 180 changed their lives,
where next day they were like, I'm better.
[Narrator] To treat his depression, Sean Spencer visits
the Ketamine Clinics of Los Angeles.
The first time I was in this chair I was pretty nervous,
certainly didn't know what to expect.
[Narrator] He's about to get his eighth IV infusion.
I don't think anybody should be afraid of it.
You're not getting handed pills in a club by somebody,
you're going to a professional and you're in a space
that's safe. How are you doing?
Ketamine is the most important breakthrough
in the treatment of depression in decades.
[Narrator] Dr Steven Mandel runs the clinic.
We give them a very gradual infusion over
50 minutes on the first infusion,
55 minutes on subsequent infusions.
[Narrator] Despite its reputation as a party drug,
ketamine is primarily a cheap and effective painkiller
that's used all around the world.
Now, more and more it's being administrated off label
to treat severe cases of depression.
The other antidepressants take weeks to months
to have an effect, ketamine kicks in within hours,
to, at the most, a couple of days.
Are you getting enough medicine?
Yeah. Most antidepressants
change levels of serotonin neurotransmitters,
but ketamine might alter glutamate receptors instead.
While that may be the key distinction,
doctors still aren't exactly sure how the treatment works.
We don't know how any of these medications
work on the brain.
We know as much about ketamine as we do
about any of the others.
We do know that ketamine tends to cause new growth
in the brain, it literally enhances neuroplasticity.
[Sean] Pretty quickly, I mean within five minutes,
(laughing) you're blasting off.
When you get to the deepest part of it,
you feel ultimate peace.
[Narrator] From the outside, Spencer seems to have it all.
(engine starting)
In 2013, he cofounded a successful startup
in LA's Silicon Beach tech community,
but that's also around the time he suffered
his first major panic attack.
Seems like somebody looking at my life from the outside
would think, what does that guy have to be depressed about?
But it doesn't work like that.
You have to look at your brain as almost
like an operating system and if that system crashes,
it doesn't matter if you have all the comforts of life,
you're still miserable.
[Narrator] And he's not alone.
According to a 2015 study, entrepreneurs are twice as likely
to suffer from depression.
These people really are playing a very high risk game.
[Narrator] He should know, most of Dr Mandel's patients
come from the Silicon Beach tech community.
You know when somebody has a job,
they may not consider the job part of who they are.
Professionals, entrepreneurs,
creative types are their job.
If you're admitting to maybe having anxiety
or being depressed, you're giving the impression
that you're weak. So Spencer tried
prescription meds, but up to 1/3 of patients
don't respond to traditional antidepressants.
There you go. I felt like a zombie.
I just thought, if this is gonna be the rest of my life,
I'm out.
[Narrator] Then he heard about the ketamine infusions.
I got to a point where I just felt like
I was at the end of my rope and I didn't have,
I didn't really have any other options.
It works on people that nothing else has worked on
to help them with their depression.
[Narrator] But not all physicians are sold
on the treatment.
The main critique is felt it's been rolled out
into clinical usage too soon.
There's so much about the drug that we don't know
in terms of how to use it, who responds to it,
what the long term consequences of taking the drug might be.
[Narrator] And the treatment still isn't FDA approved
which means many insurance carriers won't cover the cost.
And then there's the potential for long term
dependency on a treatment that still isn't fully understood.
But for Spencer it's worth the risk.
I hope in the future that it's more accessible
for more people 'cause I know a lot of people
who are a lot worse off than I've ever been
and they could use it even more.
(mellow electronic music)
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